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“

This is my Albion; and I will see it destroyed before I surrender it.
— Logan

”

Logan is the primary (although ersatz) antagonist of the first half of Fable III. He is the tyrannical ruler of the Kingdom of Albion after the death of his parent, the Hero of Bowerstone, and is the Hero of Brightwall's older brother. ^[1] He is seen as a tyrant due to his treatment of the kingdom. For example, his decisions allowed Reaver to bolster the workforce by introducing child labour. He was said to "value industry over human suffering".

Role as King

Logan takes over from his Heroic parent as monarch shortly after his/her death, and his lead advisor is Walter. He becomes a tyrant to the people of Albion; an early example in the game of this is when he orders protesters at the castle to be killed on a whim.

It is revealed that Logan once visited the kingdom of Aurora on an expedition four years ago. There, he discovered the Darkness and the Crawler. All of his men were slain and he was almost killed himself, but he was rescued by Kalin, the new leader of the city. He promised the Aurorans that he would protect them from the darkness. Upon his return home, Theresa appears and tells him that this darkness will come for Albion in the next five years. This revelation changed him from a just ruler to a tyrant, as he was forced to make cruel decisions to save the kingdom from certain destruction. He also breaks his promise to keep Aurora safe.

When revolutionaries protest in front of the castle, he orders them killed. His brother/sister enters and demands Logan to stop the killings. Logan, feeling betrayed by his own blood, makes his sibling choose between the lives of his/her friend (Elise or Elliot) or the lives of the riot leaders. Whatever the decision made, the Hero decides to leave the castle with Walter to lead a revolution for the crown. When the revolution happens and Logan sees his sibling when they burst into the castle, Logan immediately surrenders.

After the revolution takes place, Logan is put on trial and explains why he acted as he did. If you decide to spare Logan, he admits that he is glad to be rid of the throne. You meet him once more at Walter's memorial where he admits you did what he thought impossible and saved the kingdom without being cruel. Whether you raised the money for your army or not, he is still impressed that the kingdom still stands. It seems that he is not morally unsound, but was forced to make drastic sacrifices in trying to protect Albion from a greater evil.

Relationship with the Hero

Despite being a tyrannical ruler and generally being cold and suspicious towards most people, Logan seems to genuinely care for his younger sibling. The act of making the Hero choose between the group of demonstration leaders and Elise/Elliot could be interpreted as an attempt to show the Hero what difficult choices a king must make, and through that make the Hero understand his reasoning in order to gain his/her respect for what Logan is doing. This is shown, when, after the Hero has responded to the ultimatum and states that they will never forgive Logan, he replies "Good. Then you will never forget it", which emphasises that he is doing it to teach the Hero. Furthermore, during the revolution when the Hero and Walter corner Logan in the castle Logan draws his sword as they come in, but then sheaths it and surrenders once he sees his sibling. He also mentions that "My brother/sister deserves to know the truth." and that "You have finally become the man/woman I always wished you to be." After Logan is dethroned, if he is spared he is thankful and even proud of the Hero for taking the throne.

Quotes

“

Good. Then you will never forget it.
— Logan to the Hero of Brightwall, after the ultimatum succeeded, during the quest, Life in the Castle.

”

“

Never tell me what I can't do.
— Logan to Walter before ordering the execution of protesters

”

“

I am giving you power over life and death.
— Logan to the Hero before giving them the choice on who to execute

”

“

If you can't choose, I will. They will all be executed. So tell me, what are you willing to sacrifice to do the right thing?
— Logan to the Hero before the Hero makes the choice on who to execute

”

“

This is my Albion. Its cities will bow to my law...or they will burn. Its mountains will bend to my will...or they will fall. This is my Albion, its people will do as I say...or they will die. Its future will be as I decree, or it will end. I've seen what must be done and nothing will stand in my way. We will be greater and we will be stronger. No matter what sacrifices we must make. This is my Albion and I will see it destroyed before I surrender it.
— Logan's soliloquy, in the War Room

”

Trivia

Logan looking down on his sibling's victory.

Logan was first shown in the E3 trailer released on June 14th, 2010.
He is voiced by Michael Fassbender.
He is the first of the Fable Hero siblings to be male rather than female (Theresa and Rose).
The name Logan means "hollow" in Gaelic, possibly referring to his tyrannical ways. The Gaelic usage of "hollow" refers to a canyon or crevasse, which may be used to explain the scars that decorate his lower face.
In The Launch Trailer he is shown to be wearing the current Crown of Albion.
Apparently Logan commissioned a set of hammers called Trollblight in his successful campaign to exterminate every last Troll in Albion.
Once the player becomes King/Queen of Albion, Logan can be executed for his actions; though it may be seen as justified, the player will lose 100 morality points for having him executed. On the other hand, the player will gain 100 if they choose to pardon Logan. If pardoned, he will appear at Walter's memorial service after the Crawler is defeated.
His desperation to save Albion is shown by handing control of Bowerstone Industrial over to Reaver.
Theresa claimed that if Albion were to survive, a Hero needed to be on the throne instead of Logan, who would doom it to destruction. This indicates that Logan, unlike his brother/sister, is not a Hero.
After opening the music box, the player will encounter a vision explaining how Logan talks about Albion being his, and how its people shall do as he says, or they will die. He also says, "This is my Albion, and I will see it destroyed before I surrender it" Then Theresa makes a remark, "If any part of you still have doubts about a revolution, you have your answer". However, at the end, Logan reveals to the player that he became a tyrant because he wanted to save Albion from the Crawler, and that he was actually glad to be rid of the throne. It is also revealed that Theresa was the one who warned him about the Crawler's inevitable attack on Albion, which caused him to become a tyrant. This could be an oversight on the developers' part, or that it simply means that Theresa was trying to manipulate the player into leading a revolution.
- It is also possible that as Theresa claims to have shown the Hero what he or she "needed to hear" in order to gain the throne to save Albion. Logan could have actually been referring to the fact that he would rather see Albion destroyed than surrender it to the Crawler, but without context you are meant to assume he is talking about the revolution.
- It is also quite likely that Theresa means that Logan is too incompetent or otherwise handicapped to successfully fight against and defeat The Crawler, and so must be deposed by a more competent leader if Albion is to brave the storm intact.
A portrait furniture piece of Logan can be dug up in the Bowerstone Castle gardens when your dog reaches a high enough exploration skill level.
It is implied that Logan is capable in battle, seeing how he survived a fight against the Crawler on one of his expeditions to Aurora, as well as surviving the final fight between Albion and the Crawler if the Hero chose to spare Logan's life.
The player can find an address from Logan in Bowerstone Industrial, in an alleyway nearby one of the Gnomes. In the voice-over, Logan makes a patriotic yet stern appeal to the citizens of Albion, asking them to ready themselves for war without question. His sentiments seem to be a projection of his own severe sense of duty, summarized in his closing words: "... You will give every ounce of strength, and you will offer your very lives if it (Albion) asks for them. And even then you will never cease to be, for as long as Albion lives, then so will you live too."
Logan appears to be left-handed.
You get a choice on the status (dead or alive) of Theresa and Logan (who are your in-game siblings) in Fable and Fable III. You also have a lesser (Rose WILL die as part of the storyline) sense of control over Rose's fate, as you may choose to resurrect her.
Even though Logan is seen wearing the crown in the trailer and pictures, he is never seen with it in game.
Logan's facial features and clothes in game-play are slightly different in cut-scenes.
In the Fable III Limited Collectors Edition card deck, Logan is the King of Spades.
If you spare Logan and he appears at the memorial of Walter, he still wears the King's suit.
Early concept art of Logan, as seen in Lionhead's Fable III video diaries, depicted him having a handlebar moustache.
During the Crawler's final battle, Logan can be seen in the General Good's store window.
There is a statue of Logan at the back of Bowerstone Castle.
The recruiting poster featuring Logan that can be seen during loading screens is based on the Lord Kitchener Wants You recruitment poster of the British Army during World War I.
In the recruiting poster mentioned above, Logan appears much larger in build. He is also wearing a different outfit, his facial hair is more grown and the crown he wears is more pointed.
Logan will say the same line, "You have the choice between life and death," in the beginning and end of the first chapter of the game. The first time will be the choice of killing Elise/Elliot or the protest leaders, and the second time will be the choice to kill Logan or not.
When the hero is escorting Elise/Elliot, she/he will remark "Aren't you lucky having a statue of your brother outside your window...Would give me nightmares."
"This is my Albion, and I will see it destroyed before I surrender it" May be a reference to King Louis the Third who said a similar phrase about England.
His outfit seems to be slimmed down version of the King's Suit the player can recieve, however his is much thinner and with slimmer gloves. His overall apperance is thinner and taller than the player can become, even at zero weight and with full Stature.
In the novels acting as sequels to the events of Fable 3, it's stated that Logan had been pardoned by his brother. However, his whereabouts after the events of the game are never revealed.

Screenshots and images

External Links

Gamespot
CVG

References

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+{{FA|2nd December 2010|2nd January 2011}}
+{{Spoilers}}
 {{Character Infobox
-|Image = [[File:FableII_Ripper.jpg|220px]]
+|Image = [[File:Logan FableIII.jpg|200px]]
+|Name = Logan
 |Species = Human
 |Gender = Male
+|Relatives = [[The Hero of Bowerstone]] (Parent)<br>[[Rose]] (Aunt)<br/>[[Hero of Brightwall]] (Younger Sibling)
-|Home = [[Brightwood]]
+[[The Hero of Oakvale]] (Ancestor)<br/>[[Theresa]] (Ancestor)<br/>[[Brom]] (Ancestor)<br/>[[Scarlet Robe]] (Ancestor)<br/>[[William Black]] (Ancestor)<br/>[[Hero of Southcliff]] (Ancestor)
-|First = ''[[Fable II]]''
+|Home = [[Bowerstone Castle]]
-|Last = ''Fable II''
+|First = ''[[Fable III]]''
-|Status = Deceased
+|Last = ''Fable III''
-|Relationships = [[Arfur]] (Associate)<br>[[Ethan]] (Crony)
+|Status = Alive (if spared)<br/>Dead(if executed)
-|Enemies = [[Giles]]
+|Relationships = [[Hero of Brightwall]] (Ally, if spared)<br/>[[Reaver]] (Ally)
-}}
+|Enemies = [[The Crawler]]<br/>[[Hero of Brightwall]]<br/>[[Bowerstone Resistance (Group)|The Bowerstone Resistance]]<br/>[[The Swift Brigade]]}}
+{{Quote|This is my Albion; and I will see it destroyed before I surrender it.|Logan}}
+'''Logan''' is the primary (although ersatz) antagonist of the first half of ''[[Fable III]]''. He is the tyrannical ruler of the Kingdom of [[Albion]] after the death of his parent, the [[Hero of Bowerstone]], and is the [[Hero of Brightwall]]'s older brother. <ref>[http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/community/insidexbox.htm Inside Xbox: Fable III - Just can't wait to be King?]</ref> He is seen as a tyrant due to his treatment of the kingdom. For example, his decisions allowed [[Reaver]] to bolster the workforce by introducing child labour. He was said to "value industry over human suffering".
+==Role as King==
-'''Ripper''' is a character featured in ''[[Fable II]]''. He is a [[bandit]] based in [[Brightwood]]. Ripper can use [[Time Control]], a [[Will]] ability, which indicates that he, too, is a [[Hero]].
+Logan takes over from his Heroic parent as [[Monarch|monarch]] shortly after his/her death, and his lead advisor is [[Walter Beck|Walter]]. He becomes a tyrant to the people of Albion; an early example in the game of this is when he orders protesters at the castle to be killed on a whim.
-When former guard turned farmer [[Giles]] moved in to the area, Ripper and his gang began terrorising him and his family. The situation eventually escalated when one of Ripper's men, [[Ethan]], murdered Giles' wife, [[Jennifer]].
+It is revealed that Logan once visited the kingdom of [[Aurora]] on an expedition four years ago. There, he discovered the Darkness and [[The Crawler|the Crawler]]. All of his men were slain and he was almost killed himself, but he was rescued by [[Kalin]], the new leader of [[City of Aurora|the city]]. He promised the Aurorans that he would protect them from the darkness. Upon his return home, [[Theresa]] appears and tells him that this darkness will come for [[Albion]] in the next five years. This revelation changed him from a just ruler to a tyrant, as he was forced to make cruel decisions to save the kingdom from certain destruction. He also breaks his promise to keep Aurora safe.
-Upon hearing of Giles' situation, the [[Hero of Bowerstone]] has two options in order to solve Giles' problem.
+[[File:Loganthrone.jpg|right|180px|Logan and Walter in the Throne room]]
-Firstly, the Hero can choose to help him, thus starting the [[Cold Comfort Farmer]] quest. After talking to Giles, the Hero heads to Ripper's camp and wipes out his entire gang. Once all of his men are dead, Ripper chooses to confront the Hero, but is bested and surrenders. The Hero can then choose to kill him outright, or take him to Giles. Once he is Giles' prisoner, Giles binds him and escorts him to [[Bowerstone (Fable II)|Bowerstone]] where he will be hanged for his crimes.
+When revolutionaries protest in front of the castle, he orders them killed. His brother/sister enters and demands Logan to stop the killings. Logan, feeling betrayed by his own blood, makes his sibling choose between the lives of his/her friend ([[Elise]] or [[Elliot]]) or the lives of the riot leaders. Whatever the decision made, the Hero decides to leave the castle with Walter to lead a revolution for the crown. When the revolution happens and Logan sees his sibling when they burst into the castle, Logan immediately surrenders.
+After the revolution takes place, Logan is put on trial and explains why he acted as he did. If you decide to spare Logan, he admits that he is glad to be rid of the throne. You meet him once more at Walter's memorial where he admits you did what he thought impossible and saved the kingdom without being cruel. Whether you raised the money for your army or not, he is still impressed that the kingdom still stands. It seems that he is not morally unsound, but was forced to make drastic sacrifices in trying to protect Albion from a greater evil.
-Alternatively, the Hero can choose to help Ripper, thus starting the [[Red Harvest]] quest. The Hero assaults Giles' home, killing many guards that have been stationed there, and eventually Giles himself. Once Giles is dead, the Hero receives a key to his basement, where they find [[Giles' Manuscript]] - a journal detailing Giles' pursuit of the Ripper gang back when he was a guard. The journal details a raid in which Giles and numerous other guards rushed into a cave in which the Ripper gang was hiding. They were unable to make an arrest, as all the guards fell into fits of hysterics upon see Ripper and many of his cohorts dressed up in frilly womens' clothing, dancing and singing. Once the manuscript has been read, Ripper, Ethan, and another crony confront the Hero and attack, only to be killed.
+==Relationship with the Hero==
-== Trivia ==
+[[File:King of Spades.jpg|190px|left|Logan as the King of Spades]]
-*Ripper has been known to use [[Time Control]] during combat, which gives some indication that [[Hammer]], [[Garth]], [[Reaver]] and the Hero of Bowerstone are not the only Heroes left. No other bandit uses Will aside from the bandit leader that assaults [[Castle Fairfax]] after it has been purchased by the player.
+Despite being a tyrannical ruler and generally being cold and suspicious towards most people, Logan seems to genuinely care for his younger sibling. The act of making the Hero choose between the group of demonstration leaders and Elise/Elliot could be interpreted as an attempt to show the Hero what difficult choices a king must make, and through that make the Hero understand his reasoning in order to gain his/her respect for what Logan is doing. This is shown, when, after the Hero has responded to the ultimatum and states that they will never forgive Logan, he replies "Good. Then you will never forget it", which emphasises that he is doing it to teach the Hero. Furthermore, during the revolution when the Hero and Walter corner Logan in the castle Logan draws his sword as they come in, but then sheaths it and surrenders once he sees his sibling. He also mentions that ''"My brother/sister deserves to know the truth."'' and that ''"You have finally become the man/woman I always wished you to be."'' After Logan is dethroned, if he is spared he is thankful and even proud of the Hero for taking the throne.
-*Ripper is a clear reference to the character of [[W:c:buffy:Rupert Giles|Rupert Giles]], played by [[Wikipedia:Anthony Stewart Head|Anthony Stewart Head]], from the American television series ''[[Wikipedia:Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV series)|Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]''. Firstly, Giles and his son's name combined make the character's name. Secondly, as a youth, Rupert Giles operated under the moniker of "Ripper", the name given to the bandit that terrorises Giles and his family. The name of Giles's deceased wife is Jennifer, referring to Rupert Giles' love interest Jenny Calendar, played by [[Wikipedia:Robia LaMorte|Robia LaMorte]], who also meets a premature end.
-*When he surrenders, he drops his sword, a steel [[cutlass]], allowing the Hero to pick it up.
-== Gallery ==
+==Quotes==
+{{Quote|Good. Then you will never forget it.|Logan to the Hero of Brightwall, after the ultimatum succeeded, during the quest, Life in the Castle.}}
-<gallery>
-File:FableII Giles and Ripper.jpg|Giles takes Ripper prisoner.
+{{Quote|Never tell me what I can't do.|Logan to Walter before ordering the execution of protesters}}
+{{Quote|I am giving you power over life and death.|Logan to the Hero before giving them the choice on who to execute}}
+{{Quote|If you can't choose, I will. They will all be executed. So tell me, what are you willing to sacrifice to do the right thing?|Logan to the Hero before the Hero makes the choice on who to execute}}
+{{Quote|This is my Albion. Its cities will bow to my law...or they will burn. Its mountains will bend to my will...or they will fall. This is my Albion, its people will do as I say...or they will die. Its future will be as I decree, or it '''will '''end. I've seen what must be done and nothing will stand in my way. We will be greater and we will be stronger. No matter what sacrifices we must make. This is my Albion and I will see it destroyed before I surrender it.|Logan's soliloquy, in the War Room}}
+==Trivia==
+[[File:King_Logan.jpg|right|220px|Logan looking down on his sibling's victory.]]
+*Logan was first shown in the E3 trailer released on June 14th, 2010.
+*He is voiced by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Fassbender Michael Fassbender].
+*He is the first of the ''Fable'' Hero siblings to be male rather than female (Theresa and Rose).
+*The name Logan means "hollow" in Gaelic, possibly referring to his tyrannical ways. The Gaelic usage of "hollow" refers to a canyon or crevasse, which may be used to explain the scars that decorate his lower face.
+*In The Launch Trailer he is shown to be wearing the current [[Crown]] of [[Albion]].
+*Apparently Logan commissioned a set of hammers called [[Trollblight]] in his successful campaign to exterminate every last [[Troll]] in Albion.
+*Once the player becomes King/Queen of Albion, Logan can be executed for his actions; though it may be seen as justified, the player will lose 100 morality points for having him executed. On the other hand, the player will gain 100 if they choose to pardon Logan. If pardoned, he will appear at Walter's memorial service after [[The Crawler|the Crawler]] is defeated.
+*His desperation to save Albion is shown by handing control of Bowerstone Industrial over to Reaver.
+*Theresa claimed that if Albion were to survive, a Hero needed to be on the throne instead of Logan, who would doom it to destruction. This indicates that Logan, unlike his brother/sister, is not a Hero.
+*After opening the music box, the player will encounter a vision explaining how Logan talks about Albion being his, and how its people shall do as he says, or they will die. He also says, "''This is my Albion, and I will see it destroyed before I surrender it''" Then Theresa makes a remark, "''If any part of you still have doubts about a revolution, you have your answer''". However, at the end, Logan reveals to the player that he became a tyrant because he wanted to save Albion from the Crawler, and that he was actually glad to be rid of the throne. It is also revealed that Theresa was the one who warned him about the Crawler's inevitable attack on Albion, which caused him to become a tyrant. This could be an oversight on the developers' part, or that it simply means that Theresa was trying to manipulate the player into leading a revolution.
+**It is also possible that as Theresa claims to have shown the Hero what he or she "needed to hear" in order to gain the throne to save Albion. Logan could have actually been referring to the fact that he would rather see Albion destroyed than surrender it to the Crawler, but without context you are meant to assume he is talking about the revolution.
+**It is also quite likely that Theresa means that Logan is too incompetent or otherwise handicapped to successfully fight against and defeat The Crawler, and so must be deposed by a more competent leader if Albion is to brave the storm intact.
+*A portrait furniture piece of Logan can be dug up in the Bowerstone Castle gardens when your dog reaches a high enough exploration skill level.
+*It is implied that Logan is capable in battle, seeing how he survived a fight against the Crawler on one of his expeditions to Aurora, as well as surviving the final fight between Albion and the Crawler if the Hero chose to spare Logan's life.
+*The player can find an address from Logan in Bowerstone Industrial, in an alleyway nearby one of the Gnomes. In the voice-over, Logan makes a patriotic yet stern appeal to the citizens of Albion, asking them to ready themselves for war without question. His sentiments seem to be a projection of his own severe sense of duty, summarized in his closing words:'' "... You will give every ounce of strength, and you will offer your very lives if it (Albion) asks for them. And even then you will never cease to be, for as long as Albion lives, then so will you live too."''
+*Logan appears to be left-handed.
+*You get a choice on the status (dead or alive) of Theresa and Logan (who are your in-game siblings) in ''Fable'' and ''Fable III''. You also have a lesser (Rose WILL die as part of the storyline) sense of control over Rose's fate, as you may choose to resurrect her.
+*Even though Logan is seen wearing the crown in the trailer and pictures, he is never seen with it in game.
+*Logan's facial features and clothes in game-play are slightly different in cut-scenes.
+*In the ''Fable III'' Limited Collectors Edition card deck, Logan is the King of Spades.
+*If you spare Logan and he appears at the memorial of Walter, he still wears the King's suit.
+*Early concept art of Logan, as seen in Lionhead's Fable III video diaries, depicted him having a handlebar moustache.
+*During the Crawler's final battle, Logan can be seen in the General Good's store window.
+*There is a statue of Logan at the back of Bowerstone Castle.
+*The recruiting poster featuring Logan that can be seen during loading screens is based on the [[Wikipedia:Lord Kitchener Wants You|Lord Kitchener Wants You]] recruitment poster of the British Army during World War I.
+*In the recruiting poster mentioned above, Logan appears much larger in build. He is also wearing a different outfit, his facial hair is more grown and the crown he wears is more pointed.
+*Logan will say the same line, "''You have the choice between life and death,''" in the beginning and end of the first chapter of the game. The first time will be the choice of killing [[Elise]]/[[Elliot]] or the protest leaders, and the second time will be the choice to kill Logan or not.
+*When the hero is escorting Elise/Elliot, she/he will remark "Aren't you lucky having a statue of your brother outside your window...Would give me nightmares."
+*''"This is my Albion, and I will see it destroyed before I surrender it"'' May be a reference to King Louis the Third who said a similar phrase about England.
+*His outfit seems to be slimmed down version of the King's Suit the player can recieve, however his is much thinner and with slimmer gloves. His overall apperance is thinner and taller than the player can become, even at zero weight and with full Stature.
+*In the novels acting as sequels to the events of Fable 3, it's stated that Logan had been pardoned by his brother. However, his whereabouts after the events of the game are never revealed.
+==Screenshots and images==
+<gallery widths="190" captionalign="left" orientation="landscape">
+Embargoed until August 17th 12 30CEST 07 jpg.jpg|Logan and his guards
+full.jpg|Logan on his throne
+Logan head.jpg|Logan
+Loganw.png|Logan (cinematic).
+Logan_FableIII.jpg|Sinister looking Logan.
+Logan.jpg|Logan watching the rebels.
+Logan Statue.jpg|Huge statue of King Logan.
+Logan-Recruitment-Poster.jpg|Propaganda poster for the recruitment of Logan's army, with artwork of the King.
+King Logan Character Design.png|Character concept art of King Logan
+Collectable Painting Logan.png|Logan's Portrait
 </gallery>
-[[Category:Fable II Characters]]
+== External Links ==
+*[http://www.gamespot.com/events/microsoftx10/video.html?sid=6250382 Gamespot]
+*[http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234742&site=cvg CVG]
+=== References ===
+{{reflist}}
+<!--Interwiki links--> {C}[[es:Logan]] {C}[[ru:Logan]]
+[[Category:Albion Military]]
+[[Category:Fable III Characters]]
+[[Category:Fable III Enemies]]